Former Catholic Bishop of Salt Lake City Bishop William Weigand Stands Up for LDS in California: Slams Religous Bigotry in Political Ad; Defends LDS Role in Ballot Initiative Protecting Traditional Marriage

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Another Courageous Bishop in the Public Square…

SACRAMENTO, Calif., Nov 07, 2008 (BUSINESS WIRE) — The following statement was released today by Bishop William Weigand, head of the Roman Catholic Diocese of Sacramento and former Bishop of Salt Lake City, in response to attacks on the Mormon Church for supporting California’s Proposition 8, defending the traditional definition of marriage:

The ProtectMarriage Coalition…

“Catholics stand in solidarity with our Mormon brothers and sisters in support of traditional marriage–the union of one man and one woman–that has been the major building block of Western Civilization for millennia. “The ProtectMarriage coalition, which led the successful campaign to pass Proposition 8, was an historic alliance of people from every faith and ethnicity. LDS were included–but so were Catholics and Jews, Evangelicals and Orthodox, African-Americans and Latinos, Asians and Anglos.”

A Personal Reference…

“Bigoted attacks on Mormons for the part they played in our coalition are shameful and ignore the reality that Mormon voters were only a small part of the groundswell that supported Proposition 8. “As the former bishop of the Diocese of Salt Lake City, I can attest to the fact that followers of the Mormon faith are a good and generous people with a long history of commitment to family and giving to community causes.”

The Irony of Modern Day Intolerance…

“I personally decry the bigotry recently exhibited towards the members of the Church of the Latter Day Saints–coming from the opponents of Proposition 8, who ironically, have called those of us supporting traditional marriage intolerant.”

Respecting the Will of the People… 

“I call upon the supporters of same-sex marriage to live by their own words–and to refrain from discrimination against religion and to exercise tolerance for those who differ from them. I call upon them to accept the will of the people of California in the passage of Proposition 8.”

SOURCE: Roman Catholic Diocese of Sacramento

5 thoughts on “Former Catholic Bishop of Salt Lake City Bishop William Weigand Stands Up for LDS in California: Slams Religous Bigotry in Political Ad; Defends LDS Role in Ballot Initiative Protecting Traditional Marriage”

  1. Gays are actually speeding up the return of Jesus to earth as Judge! In Luke 17 Jesus discussed two practices occurring in Genesis: the “days of Noah” (physical violence) and the “days of Lot” (violence of God’s law – known today as sexual perversion). And He predicted that just before His return, there will be a mysterious worldwide resurgence of both vices on an unparalleled scale which will actually be the behind-the-scenes work of unseen powers who will brainwash many persons! So while gays are playing their predicted role (which often goes hand in hand with violence), they are unwittingly hurrying up the return of Jesus as their Judge! If you are shockproof, Google “Obama Supports Public Depravity” which often occurs in Pelosi’s pigpen. After recovering, Yahoo “God to Same-Sexers: Hurry Up.” See all of this before San Francisco’s underground saint – San Andreas – gets a big jolt out of all the faults of SF’s porn-protecting leaders!
    Daniel
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  2. The bishop is a liar and a bigot himself.
    “Bigots have always thought themselves to be fair, enlightened, and right — even when they are unfair, ignorant, and wrong. Those who support Prop 8 are no better than any other bigots. That religious sects are among those attempting to “proposition” society should not surprise us: religion is often a comfort to bigotry and a haven for hypocrisy.In giving so much material support for the passage of Prop 8 without giving pause to reflect on the astonishing elevation of the right to marrry as a basic human right amd subject to the close scrunity level of protection of the equal protection clause, the catholic leadership has participatied in a divisive undermining of the authority of the Court and in imposing as LP states a tyranny of the majority that eviserates the equal protection clause for all Californians. It will be interesting to see if the Supreme Court will allow the yes on 8 majority to vote away their rights, which of course is not possible.

    Pope Benedict said “The union of love, based on matrimony between a man and a woman, which makes up the family, represents a good for all society that can not be substituted by, confused with, or compared to other types of unions,”
    The pope also spoke of the inalienable rights of the traditional family, “founded on matrimony between a man and a woman, to be the natural cradle of human life”.

    What is so interesting in the California Supreme Court’s reasoning is its defense of the familial aspect of same sex marriages. If the Pope wants to conflate Catholic theology and secular law, he would be wise to read the Court’s concern for the families of same sex unions. The cradle for adopted, neglected or abandonned children,is found in all unions, including same sex and is more in keeping with sacramental theology where all, through Christ, become the adopted children of God.
    Ironic that a secular Court has so much to teach the Church in this regard , which is increasingly identifying itself as the last refuge of bigotry.

  3. Hi Seamus, Thanks for responding.

    Fratres Response:

    You said:

    “The bishop is a liar and a bigot himself. “Bigots have always thought themselves to be fair, enlightened, and right — even when they are unfair, ignorant, and wrong. Those who support Prop 8 are no better than any other bigots. That religious sects are among those attempting to “proposition” society should not surprise us: religion is often a comfort to bigotry and a haven for hypocrisy.”

    I realize that you’re emotional over yet another defeat by the electorate. I too am a bit emotional over the election of a radical abortion rights president. So I’ll try not to replicate your offensive remarks…

    As for religious sects “propositioning society” (with their own viable concerns for the moral norms of society) you act as if they have no rights to oppose the tenets you desire to promote, or support those movements, (religious or non-religious alike) within society that clearly, twice now, have rejected your cause in California as well as several other states.

    As for religion being a comfort to bigotry and a haven for hypocrisy I disagree.

    First, the definition of bigotry is: “stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one’s own.” The comfort one finds in religion (authentic truth concerning God and Man) has as its origin the object of belief—God. A concrete experience of the Creator not only brings comfort in the realization of such divine love for man himself, but, also convinces one of the realities of sin within ones life and the world that transgress the laws of God (the Creator) found within nature.

    It is the same Creator that has placed a natural law within the hearts of all societies so that we know right from wrong and chaos does not prevail. The struggle then, is a struggle with the laws of God that do not originate from man himself. Just because there is a loss of the sense of sin within society does not mean that sin does not exist or that it can be justified as “a right”. If a bigot (non-religious) takes refuge in religion, I understand that to mean that your cause is found to be naturally offensive to that person (as so many non-religious voters who supported Prop 8 emphatically confirmed in California 2x). And if he seeks to understand why within religion–authentic truth as revealed by God, within his laws, within his Church and within his presence confirm what the “bigot” understands within his heart before knowledge of either the law or sanctifying grace.

    Secondly, religion is not a “haven” for hypocrisy. Most people who seek and intend to live their lives in accord with the dictates of their faith do so. Your understanding of religious hypocrisy and conversion is flawed. Every Christian is fully aware of the sin that they must seek to overcome within themselves each day—it comes with the territory. And any Christian who says he is without sin is a liar and the truth is not in him. There is a difference between a falling away from the love due to God and his laws and human weakness, with that of the sad existence of outright religious hypocrisy. But, I assure you religion is not a “haven” for such. Not from my experience.

    You said:

    “In giving so much material support for the passage of Prop 8 without giving pause to reflect on the astonishing elevation of the right to marrry as a basic human right amd subject to the close scrunity level of protection of the equal protection clause, the catholic leadership has participatied in a divisive undermining of the authority of the Court and in imposing as LP states a tyranny of the majority that eviserates the equal protection clause for all Californians. It will be interesting to see if the Supreme Court will allow the yes on 8 majority to vote away their rights, which of course is not possible.”

    Long story short, society does not agree with you, and the will of the people have spoken; and so, the only recourse now, (as before), is the liberalized agenda-driven court system of California. Tyranny?

    You said:

    “Pope Benedict said “The union of love, based on matrimony between a man and a woman, which makes up the family, represents a good for all society that can not be substituted by, confused with, or compared to other types of unions,” The pope also spoke of the inalienable rights of the traditional family, “founded on matrimony between a man and a woman, to be the natural cradle of human life”. What is so interesting in the California Supreme Court’s reasoning is its defense of the familial aspect of same sex marriages. If the Pope wants to conflate Catholic theology and secular law, he would be wise to read the Court’s concern for the families of same sex unions. The cradle for adopted, neglected or abandonned children,is found in all unions, including same sex and is more in keeping with sacramental theology where all, through Christ, become the adopted children of God. Ironic that a secular Court has so much to teach the Church in this regard , which is increasingly identifying itself as the last refuge of bigotry.”

    There is no familial aspect of same sex marriage in and of itself. The consummation act of same sex marriage is lifeless. So there is a need for justification on other grounds, in this case adoption. Secular law, contrary to the ill-formed consciences and opinions of modern man, derives in their origin from the God of nature. When the laws of men run counter to the laws of God destruction and death ensue. A perfect example of this is the death of 50 Million children in the womb of life in America, and nearly 1 Trillion of the same worldwide, due in large part to man’s deadly “laws” born of Roe V. Wade; And this, only in the course of my lifetime.

    The cradle for children in “every circumstance of their lives” is not found in all unions. A child needs the authentic love and care that only a mother and father can provide. You would be wise to reread the Pope’s comments on the natural cradle of human life—because the first cell that refreshes and gives life to all societies is the traditional family.

    As for the sacramental theology part of your wandering justifications for same-sex marriage—the true God present in the Sacraments of Love—body, blood, soul and divinity–is the same true God who came as man to fulfill the laws. And the same God who spoke to the Pharisee’s of his day, saying:

    “Have you not read that from the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female’ and said, ‘for this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore, what God has joined together, no human being must separate.”

    When all is said and done Seamus, this is the goad you’re kicking against here my friend, not His Church, but the Creator…

    Peace to you and yours,
    james mary evans

  4. Daniel,

    Thanks for responding.

    Fratres Response:

    You said:

    “Gays are actually speeding up the return of Jesus to earth as Judge!”

    Gays are not speeding up the return of Jesus to earth as judge of the living and the dead. You know neither the day nor the hour, let alone the speed of his works. Yes, all time is directed to the Eternal God, and his eternal comments concerning the Final Judgement are certainly directed to us that we should be aware of the signs of his sure coming, but, the same argument of quickening you propose could also be applied in regards the sins of disunity associated with Protestant Reformation as interpretated by St. Paul and confirmed by the Church Fathers:

    As to this event St. Paul admonishes the Thessalonians (2 Thessalonians 2:3) that they must not be terrified, as if the day of the Lord were at hand, for there must first come a revolt. The Fathers and interpreters understand by this revolt a great reduction in the number of the faithful through the abandonment of the (Catholic) Christian religion by many nations. Some commentators cite as confirmatory of this belief the words of Christ: “But yet the Son of man, when he cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth?” (Luke 18:8).

    You see, there are many events associated with the return of the Son of Man and the Son of God. If you mean that the cup of iniquity (all sin) is full, indeed flowing over in our age, then I agree. But it is unfair to pin the “speeding up” of Second Coming on the existence of Gays. Authentic Christian teaching on the subject reveals that “the act” of homosexuality is itself the intrinsic disorder (sin). The reality that there are homosexual tendencies found within souls does not justify alone blanketing “Gays” with speeding up the return of Jesus as the Just Judge. Let us remember that God is perfectly Just, but also, perfectly Merciful, and wants all men to come to knowledge of their inner reality as created in the image of God, and in need of God before the end of this life. We only need look at ourselves to discover pre-and-post Christian behavior (sin) in this regard—the teaching is: homosexuals are called to conversion in God, and Christian’s with homosexual tendencies are called to chastity; as are we all who struggle with the sins of the flesh.

    You said:

    “See all of this before San Francisco’s underground saint – San Andreas – gets a big jolt out of all the faults of SF’s porn-protecting leaders!”

    As for the hidden underground Saint Andreas: It is not unwise to see God in “all the events” of our lives. But, there is no fear found in authentic hypostatic union with God. In fact, we are released from the fear of death that gripes us personally and the world in general, as we understand the profound reality of its defeat by means of the Cross. Yet, this comment betrays the reality and active principle that “they will know us by our love.” And not, “they will know us by our representation of fear” as your comment suggest.” Let me be clear, there is nothing wrong with speaking the truth in love and calling for repentance into the new reality of authentic spiritual life found in Christ Jesus. But, your apparent disregard for the dignity of life here does not well represent the mission of the One who reveals in his divine person the spiritual reality that He remains “yesterday, today, and forever”, “…meek and humble of heart…”

    Below is a list of the signs of His coming:

    1. The General Preaching of The Christian Religion–Concerning this sign the Saviour says: “And this gospel of the kingdom, shall be preached in the whole world, for a testimony to all nations, and then shall the consummation come” (Matthew 24:14). This sign was understood by Chrysostom and Theophilus as referring to the destruction of Jerusalem, but, according to the majority of interpreters, Christ is here speaking of the end of the world.
    2. The Conversion of the Jews–According to the interpretation of the Fathers, the conversion of the Jews towards the end of the world is foretold by St. Paul in the Epistle to the Romans (11:25-26): “For I would not have you ignorant, brethren, of this mystery, . . . that blindness in part has happened in Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles should come in. And so all Israel should be saved as it is written: “There shall come out of Sion, he that shall deliver, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob”
    3. The Return of Enoch and Elijah–The belief that these two men, who have never tasted death, are reserved for the last times to be precursors of the Second Advent was practically unanimous among the Fathers, which belief they base on several texts of Scripture. (Concerning Elijah see Malachi 4:5-6; Ecclesiasticus 48:10; Matthew 17:11; concerning Enoch see Ecclesiasticus 44:16.)
    4. The Great Apostacy—See Above
    5. The Reign of The Anti-Christ– In 2 Thessalonians 2:3 sqq., St. Paul indicates as another sign of the day of the Lord, the revelation of the man of sin, the son of perdition. “The man of sin” here described is generally identified with the Antichrist who, says St. John (1 John 2:18), is to come in the last days. Although much obscurity and difference of opinion prevails on this subject, it is generally admitted from the foregoing and other texts that before the Second Coming there will arise a powerful adversary of Christ, who will seduce the nations by his wonders, and persecute the Church.
    6. Extraordinary Perturbations of Nature– The Scriptures clearly indicate that the judgment will be preceded by unwanted and terrifying disturbances of the physical universe (Matthew 24:29; Luke 21:25-26). The wars, pestilences, famines, and earthquakes foretold in Matthew 24:6 et seq., are also understood by some writers as among the calamities of the last times.
    7. The Universal Conflagration– In the Apostolic writings we are told that the end of the world will be brought about through a general conflagration, which, however, will not annihilate the present creation, but will change its form and appearance (2 Peter 3:10-13; cf. 1 Thessalonians 5:2; Apocalypse 3:3, and 16:15). Natural science shows the possibility of such a catastrophe being produced in the ordinary course of events, but theologians generally tend to believe that its origin will be entirely miraculous.
    8. The Trumpet of Resurrection– Several texts in the New Testament make mention of a voice or trumpet which will awaken the dead to resurrection (1 Corinthians 15:52; 1 Thessalonians 4:15; John 5:28). According to St. Thomas (Supplement 86:2) there is reference in these passages either to the voice or to the apparition of Christ, which will cause the resurrection of the dead.
    9. The Sign of the Son of Man Appearing in the Heavens– In Matthew 24:30, this is indicated as the sign immediately preceding the appearance of Christ to judge the world. By this sign the Fathers of the Church generally understand the appearance in the sky of the Cross on which the Saviour died or else of a wonderful cross of light the Christian Religion

    Concerning the signs of the times posted above: I submit to the teaching magisterium of the Catholic Church as handed down from the Apostles into our own days.

    Hat/Tip for the Above: End Times Prophecy: A Catholic Perspective

  5. A truer definition of hypocrisy is that of Jesus’s perception of the Pharisees who did indeed use religion as a haven for their bigotry. The bishops who were unable to protect children from the sexual abuse of their priests yet participated in a campaign of lies purporting the enforced sexual education of children, falls within that connotation.
    The justification for a great many of evils has found sustenance in religions. The Muslim terrorism of today is a fresh example and one need only look at the institution of slavery to see how much it was defended as biblical truth. I will be the first to say that this is the misuse and abuse of religion. But the history of the Catholic church is replete with horrific examples of its past persecutions against minorities which Pope John Paul has made formal; apology. And never more is an apology required from the the church than in its treatment of gays and lesbians for whom it perpetuates a willful ignorance.
    Your arguments against the sacramental character of same sex marriages is a biologism at best and could be equally employed against sterile opposite sex couples. Furthermore you and in this case the bishops have a limited and narrow understanding of sacramental and incarnational theology which is the harbinger of our salvation. The redemption, the justification of same sex marriages as in all things is the infusion love that is far from your lifeless denigration.

    Lastly your antipathy against our constitutional form of government rises from a profound ignorance of majority rules set against minority rights, the separation of powers and the role of the Courts in defending those rights.
    In regards to the equal protection clause no majority has any say regarding not only rights granted by the constitution but the inalienable rights to life , liberty and the pursuit of happiness as enunciated in Declaration of Independence.
    It is beyond embarrassing so self evident the lie in the attempt by Bishop Blaire and Archbishop Mahoney to characterize this undermining of the equal protection clause of the Constitution as not directed at same sex couples and the presently 13000 children of those unions. It is equally fatuous of them to insist that the opposition play nice and accept the tyranny of the majority and its injustice. And it is in utter contempt of the truth for the bishop of Sacramento to label as bigots those protesting the churches that acted as political agents of reaction, when far from being the aggrieved party he and they are the oppressor.
    Cardinal Roger Mahony of the Los Angeles Archdiocese stated clearly the bishops agenda in a manner that in previous times struck fear in Jews and Huguenots, in the following statement.
    “I am grateful to the Catholic Community of Los Angeles for your commitment to the institution of marriage as fashioned by God and to work with such energy to enshrine this divine plan into our state’s Constitution,”
    Clearly they have abandoned what little pretense they had of the separation between church and state.

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