Father Roy Bourgeois Excommunicated (Text)

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Excommunicates: Janice Sevre-Duszynska conversing with Fr. Roy Bourgeois who co-celebrated false ordination of Janice as a Roman Catholic Womanpriest in Lexington, Kentucky on Aug. 9, 2008

From the National Catholic Register…

Maryknoll: ‘Excommunicated’

Wednesday, December 10, 2008 2:09 PM

Tom Hoopes here. I just got off the phone with Betsey Guest, spokeswoman for the Maryknoll Fathers and Brothers in New York, to ask about the reported excommunication of one of their priests for participating in an attempt to ordain women. Here’s the raw interview:

Does Maryknoll consider Father Roy Bourgeois to be excommunicated?

“We believe that he has been excommunicated. This was done by the CDF, not by us.”

As of today, Dec. 10?
“Yes.”

Have you heard from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith about it?
“There has been no direct communication from the CDF regarding that.”

Then why do you consider him excommunicated?
“Because he was given 30 days to recant his actions, and he had responded saying that he could not recant those actions, he has been excommunicated at the end of that” period of time.

Is there usually a communication like these?
She said she had no idea, but reiterated that Maryknoll leaders “have not received any formal notification to that effect and are in fact awaiting a response from the CDF to Father Bourgeois’s letter sent Nov. 13″

Is he still a Maryknoll?
“He’s still a member, but possibly open to possible further penalty. We don’t know whether that will take place or not. We have not had official word.”

So, any further penalty would be in the hands of the CDF and not the Maryknolls?
“We are awaiting their response.”

He can be excommunicated and still be a Maryknoll?
“He is still a Catholic.” Many people misunderstand what excommunication means, she said. “He is just prohibited from receiving or administering the sacraments.

Does the order regret the stance Father Bourgeois took on women’s ordination?
“We’re very saddened. The fathers and brothers are very saddened by the course of the events that have taken. He’s been a member of the family for 63 years. They give him their love and pastoral response.”

Yes, but does the order regret his stance on women’s ordination.
“We are saddened by the whole circumstance.”

Does Maryknoll have a stance on women’s ordination?
“Maryknoll has no official stance by the order”

Either for or against?
“We have no official stance. The order follows the rules and regulations of the Catholic Church.”

How is Father Bourgeois taking the news?
“He does not live here at headquarters. His work is quite separate.”

Have you spoken to him personally?
“I have not.”

Where is he now?
“He lives outside Fort Benning, Ga. The School of the Americas Watch is his ministry. Peace and Justice work is his ministry. He speaks around the country on many issues of peace.”

How will this affect that work?
“It remains to be seen. This is all so new.”

- Tom Hoopes

Maryknoll Statement…

For Immediate Release, November 12, 2008
Contact: Betsey Guest, 914-941-7636×2219

Statement regarding Father Roy Bourgeois

The Maryknoll Society did receive a confidential communiqué from the Congregation for the
Doctrine of Faith, and forwarded the contents of that communiqué to Father Bourgeois. The
Society continues to respect the confidentiality of the communications between the Congregation
of the Doctrine of the Faith and Father Bourgeois.

The Society will abide by the decision of the Congregation. At the same time, we have an
obligation to ensure the canonical rights of our members, and we will fulfill that obligation.

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8 thoughts on “Father Roy Bourgeois Excommunicated (Text)

  1. Just a reminder:

    If the Catholic Church is going to go on insisting that women can’t be priests because none of the Apostles were women, it would also have to bar Catholic MEN from being Catholic priests, since all of the Apostles were observant Jews.

    • Hi Ken–

      Here’s the teaching of the Church on the matter:

      “Wherefore, in order that all doubt may be removed regarding a matter of great importance, a matter which pertains to the Church’s divine constitution itself, in virtue of my ministry of confirming the brethren (cf. Lk 22:32) I declare that the Church has no authority whatsoever to confer priestly ordination on women and that this judgment is to be definitively held by all the Church’s faithful.”

      Pope John Paul II, Apostolic Letter, Ordinatio Sacerdotalis, 1994

      Simply put, Jesus Christ (God made man), called men to be His Apostles… Period.

      Yes, this is contrary to modern views of the world that the worldly would like to implant within the Church because of confused notions of “justice” and “equality”. But, nonetheless, the Church is divinely instituted, and therefore, not subject to women ordination movements inspired by radical feminism during those crazy 60′s… That era is dying out, and current radical moves of women to self-ordain, (and thus self-excommunicate themselves from the Church), sad as that is, are the result of 20+ years of frustrated efforts by dissident Catholics to overturn settled doctrine with doctrines of the world…

      The reality–Christ, God, is taking back His Church…

      As for your idea that men cannot be ordained Priests because they were observant Jews: You are missing the point in two ways.

      1. God (The Fullness of Absolute Divine Truth) became man in order to establish a New and Everlasting Covenant with all peoples for the sake of their salvation. The Creator of all peoples became man in time so all peoples might have eternal life through knowing the only true God and Jesus Christ, Whom He sent. This true God called observant Jews (men) to be His ministers of the Redemption and New Covenant. (Jesus was an observant Jew Himself). He Himself called the Apostles, and Paul, who would become the Apostle to the Gentiles. The Apostles did not make themselves Apostles–He called them. The point is, your missing the universal (catholic) understanding of the nature of their call. The mission then, is the same now–through Christ the world is being reconciled to the one true God. The Church, as the Pontiff above points out, has no authority whatsoever to confer priestly ordination on women, for it was established by God Himself. This doctrine can’t, and won’t be changed.

      2. The Blessed Virgin Mary (a Woman) was an observant Jew also, exceeding both men and women in holiness and divine grace (in fact, she was sinless), but, the Son of Man and the Son of God chose not to make her a Priest…

      Something to think about.

      Hope this helps,
      jme

  2. In Christ there is neither Jew nor Greek, male or female, slave or free–the implications of this teaching of St. Paul’s were slow to be acknowledged in the ongoing development of ministries in the Church. For example, only the Twelve were considered to be Apostles, at one period. Then anyone receiving a call from Christ, such as St. Paul, could be considered an Apostle, which thus became a ministry, and not merely an exclusive group of Twelve. The Twelve were “Apostles” par excellence, but not excluvisely. Later, non-Jews could be “Apostles”, “Teachers”, “Prophets”, …”Presbyters”, “Bishops”, … Slaves, eventually, too. Later, people of non-Mediterranean cultures.
    We seem to be at the threshold of a new, the latest, development.

    • Hi Father Joe, Thanks for responding—Know during this “Year of the Priest” that you’ll be receiving prayers from here. In fact, following my response I’ll be inserting your name and all the needs of your ministry within the Holy Mass at the Grotto of Our Lady of Lourdes.

      In answer to the question of whether women can be ordained priests:

      *“Wherefore, in order that all doubt may be removed regarding a matter of great importance, a matter which pertains to the Church’s divine constitution itself, in virtue of my ministry of confirming the brethren (cf. Lk 22:32) I declare that the Church has no authority whatsoever to confer priestly ordination on women and that this judgment is to be definitively held by all the Church’s faithful.”
      Pope John Paul II, Apostolic Letter, Ordinatio Sacerdotalis, 1994

      *Infallible declaration that ensures this matter is settled and will never change.

      As I’m sure your aware, according to the teaching of the Church–women’s ordination is a moot discussion—as this judgment is to be definitively held by all Catholics, as it is here.

      Nonetheless a point or two on your comments:

      1. Galatians 3:28, doesn’t concern ministries. It does speak of the universal salvific nature of Christ, and thus, the essential truth of the salvation message of Christianity for all peoples. And the Church has consistently interpreted this passage in this way.
      2. It’s highly doubtful that the early Church in the manner you present it as here viewed St. Paul’s teaching this way. Yes, the questionable doctrines and theology of Gnostics (as modern feminist revisionists would tell it today) seem to lend credence to promoting greater women’s roles within the early Church, but, these same sects also produced dangerous Christological errors and other heresies which the early Church leaders eventually corrected.
      3. On the call of St. Paul by “special revelation” of Christ—He himself surrendered himself to the early Church. From the Ascension onward it was the Church who verified and authenticated “calls” to the Priesthood.

      No one has a “right” to the priesthood as some suggest today.

      My prayers will continue…

      yours in Christ,
      jme

  3. What matters is that people work not only for a livable world, now extremely endangered, but where everyone is free to develope fully their creativity in the compassionate service of human and nonhuman beings. Dogma in every religion is harmfully divisive. Fundamentalism, orthodoxy, promotes religious wars. The work of people like Dorothy Day, Father Bourgeois, KATHY Kelly can save us. Doctrinal disputes waste time for what urgently matters.

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  5. Let’s see he is still a member of Maryknoll … guess that’s so Betsy can keep on cutting Maryknoll checks to pay his rent.

    “He lives outside Fort Benning, Ga. The School of the Americas Watch is his ministry. Peace and Justice work is his ministry. He speaks around the country on many issues of peace.”

    Peace and Justice, Justice and Peace, well that just says it all … “Betsy” does not say who his “immediate male supervisor” was; perhaps he has never really had one, but whoever he is he did not do Bourgeois any favors by tolerating his obsessive compulsive preoccupation with secular “progressive” politics for apparently decades on end and his neglect of preaching the Cross.

    If they are going to continue to pay his rent the best thing Maryknoll could do for him now is to find him an apartment across the street from an Abortion clinic and get this guy refocused on the real core evil in America. Then he could focus on REAL JUSTICE FOR REAL VICTIMS as there are 2 of them with each Abortion.

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